After 9/11, Ergun Caner became a popular speaker. However, he was prone to lying about his past. This particular video series deals with the irreconcilable versions that Ergun has presented about his brothers’ conversions. In 2001, he began saying that he converted November 4, 1982 and a year later, he preached a seven minute sermon. That Sunday night his brothers supposedly converted. However, Ergun and his brother Emir wrote a bestselling book. In Unveiling Islam, Ergun converted. His brother, Erdem, converted in their basement. Then a year later, Emir, not Ergun, converted November 4, 1982. Around 2009, he began saying that it was not until he was away at college that he found out his brothers converted.
So far, I have provided two examples, here is another.
Pastor’s Perspective interviewed Ergun, January 2010. About five months later, his university launched their investigation. After completion of the investigation, Liberty University refused to continue his contract as President of the seminary. A month later, Dr. Norman Geisler wrote several passionate defenses of his friend, trying to argue that Ergun never lied.
At the beginning of August 2010, Ergun preached at Calvary Chapel Downey. About two and a half weeks later, Jason Smathers will publish the videos from 2005 of Ergun lying to the Marines at Marine Corps Air Station New River.
While Ergun was more honest at Downey there was some things lacking. Pertinent to this video series, Ergun claimed that he was almost in college when he converted.
But you look around the room what’s different about your church than say any other churches? Look around. We look like a bowl of fruity pebbles here, skittles. Various shades and colors, we don’t look monochromatic. We don’t fit one scheme. We look like the United Nations.
The reason I say that is I didn’t become a Christian until I was in High School, almost in college. And where I got saved in Columbus, Ohio, the worship was suburban. It was hymn driven. If you have ever been to a hymn driven church, it’s, back in the day, they would, “Take out your hymnal and turn with me to hymn number two hundred and twenty and we are going to sing first second and last.” I never understood why they skipped the third verse, but they always skipped over the third verse like it was the evil verse, because they sang from the hymn book.
As you can probably guess coming from an Islamic background, I was disowned when I became a believer in Jesus. And so going into college, I had no visible means of support. God provided support for me. I ended up in college in Kentucky, southeastern Kentucky, right on the border of Tennessee where I had to relearn English for a second time.
If he was almost in college, when he converted the logical inference is that a year later when his brothers converted, he was in college.
The pastor’s wife loved on me. I went home that night and told my father that I was a believer in Jesus and it was the last time I saw my Dad until he died. I was disowned, but my church became my family and the pastor’s wife, honey she was tough.
Yuki Miller, Japanese, out of Shintoism, about this tall, mean as a snake. I had no idea what she was talking about, she didn’t know what I was talking about, but I wanted to be able to pray like her. We would all join hands on a Sunday night and Clarence would inevitably call on his wife to pray. “Yuki, why don’t you close us?” And Yuki would start, “Heavenly Father, we are thanking you for everything you are doing today.” I may not have caught every word, but I wanted to have that heart. And God help you if you missed, God help you if you missed church one Sunday, but Yuki was old time, she was old school bus visitation. And Yuki would show up at your door, “Ergun, you come church now!” Man.
She’s still alive. Clarence is still alive. Yuki is still alive. Jerry Tackett, the boy who led me to Christ is still alive. All these people who invested in my life were all warriors who ripped the roof off in my life.
A year later I was in college, like I told you. I found out that both my brothers got saved. From my father and my mom, from my father and my mother, all three, all three boys, raised as Sunni Muslims all three are born again believers in Jesus. All three are ministers of the gospel.
Erdem, the middle brother, the middle brother Erdem is a layman, but he preaches in Cincinnati, Ohio as a business man, he does things on tithing. Emir, my youngest brother, is the President of Truett-Mcconnel college in Cleveland, Georgia. I’m at Liberty University, because of one kid.
Ergun typically dates his conversion at November 4, 1982, the day after his sixteenth birthday. Ergun did not go to college until the fall of 1984. Both his brothers date their conversion also to 1982. Emir even claims that he not Ergun converted November 4, 1982. In fact they co-authored a book together that said just that.
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"Annual New England Xylophone Symposium" by Do Kashiteru http://ccmixter.org/files/DoKashiteru/19848
"Gloria" by Snowflake http://ccmixter.org/files/snowflake/22692
"Test Drive" by Zapac http://ccmixter.org/files/Zapac/26047
"I Dunno" by Grapes http://ccmixter.org/files/grapes/16626
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“Worship of Warriors” - Calvary Chapel Downey- Downey, CA – August 1, 2010 http://www.ccdowneymedia.com/webcasts/s2-08-01-2010-v291k.wmv
Tim Lee's statements
September 25, 2010 article where Ergun says he did not lie.
The unedited Marine videos on Viddler
Unedited Marine Videos on Youtube
Ergun Caner's Apology
Norman Geisler's statements